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Re: Rules

Postby AndrewIrvine » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:56 pm

I also know of people who have partners at home having a listen in during shifts. My other half even helped them out after a bag snatch when she saw the perpetrator trying to hide. She blocked her number and phoned the shopping centre. They took it from there. Being able to listen in has its good points.
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Re: Rules

Postby mark99 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:23 pm

It is either a scanning forum or it is not.
Either allow free sharing of information or shut the forum.

There is no middle ground.
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Re: Rules

Postby m0lsx » Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:37 pm

mark99 wrote:It is either a scanning forum or it is not.
Either allow free sharing of information or shut the forum.

There is no middle ground.



You are right it's a scanning forum, but that does not mean that the forum has to cover every aspect of the hobby or do something that could lead to issues.
My other hobby is magic & one magic forum will not allow any trick to be sold in a written format second hand. Simply because that would allow someone to buy a trick, learn it , sell the book/booklet etc, but continue using the trick.
It is common practice to not discuss moves or magical terms. So a coin trick move may be referred to as "a p**m."
The above does not stop magic being discussed or ideas being shared & it certainly does the hobby or business of magic no damage, in fact having rules to work around can make for some interesting posts as we need to think as we type.
Another example of rules that to some make no sense is a radio amateur forum where illegal CB radios are not permitted to be sold. However you can sell old illegal CB's converted to 10 meters or modern 26 through 30 mhz radios or opened up amateur radios that cover 27mhz.
The above does not make sense to some & I am not sure I see the logic in it myself. But it's a amateur radio forum not a CB forum & it's just the way it is & it's a good forum. So those that don't like it have two options. Take it or leave the forum & it certainly does not damage the forum or the range of kit available for sale there.
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Re: Rules

Postby G4RMT » Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:55 pm

Forum or club, certain universal rules seem to prevail on line and in private.

There are two sides to everything. Knowledge is indeed 'power'. I suspect most people like to know things, learn things and do things with this knowledge. In turn you pass the hard work derived information to people you want it to go to. Online, this means that if you know the frequency, and CTCSS tone, or DCC for a certain radio user you may choose to just hand it over, or perhaps wait to see if the person becomes a proper member and contributes. Me personally, I like to share but not just give. If somebody who I know from their posts online, I'm inclined to pass info over, but somebody with 1 post, asking for specific info doesn't sit well with me.

Loads of people seem to join, demand, then once they have the info, vanish for ever. I'm into the community. I'm absolutely positive much information is shared on here one to one, privately for this reason. The hobby does need some kind of membership fee, which might just be time, or effort, or advice. I don't like the idea that somebody turns up, asks a security company radio question, gets it then goes away - you never know, do you?
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Re: Rules

Postby m0lsx » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:30 pm

G4RMT wrote: Loads of people seem to join, demand, then once they have the info, vanish for ever................ I don't like the idea that somebody turns up, asks a security company radio question, gets it then goes away - you never know, do you?


I am always cautious. Personally I have never seen why CTCSS or DCS codes are shared, as they are helpful to the unlicensed muppets with cheap ebay radios & an IQ lower than their number of posts & with digi radios I think we need to be even more careful. As not only are the digi details of interest to those using scanners to commit crimes. Shoplifters etc. But they are also of use to the unlicensed muppets who want to jam, or pirate legitimate users frequencies.
Personally I have no problems at all with someone operating on unused frequencies without a licence. It harms no one & has happened since the very first days of radio.
But posting things that allows muppets to damage our hobby either by using radios or by writing stupid articles about how naughty it is. Is not something I want to be part of.
Like many here I remember the damage Paul Vey did to the hobby, when he showed journalists our hobby. Paul was in the main, one of the good guys & if he can cause such a storm, imagine what they will make of people who are far from good guy's operating under the banner of our hobby.
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Re: Rules

Postby AndrewIrvine » Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:38 pm

I still haven't heard from any admin or moderators, only wannabe ones.

I can't post in 'Advanced' because I'm not one. I seem to be the most regular for the whole of Scotland, even then only really the Ayrshire or Glasgow bit.

If people want more secure transmissions, get digital and RAS combined. If push comes to shove, buy a cheap mobile phone depending on numbers.

If people want tones etc, they can find out without the internet, or just use other sites. You can Google stuff for answers without needing this site.

If anyone starts mucking about with security etc transmissions, then the user can just go DMR / RAS encrypted then the people doing the harassment won't hear anything intelligible. How often do you actually hear people giving abuse? i don't seem to read of any, much.
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Re: Rules

Postby stanogs68 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:04 pm

sums it up for me Andrew :thumbup:
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Re: Rules

Postby moj » Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:52 pm

I made a reply and said my bit but have deleted it now cause I'm leaving it in admins hands to sort Andrew out and how he's feeling and what the forums rules are once and for all ....
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Re: Rules

Postby yupiteru » Fri Dec 30, 2016 10:11 pm

AndrewIrvine wrote:I still haven't heard from any admin or moderators, only wannabe ones.

I can't post in 'Advanced' because I'm not one.



Thats because your not a radio ham and you dont do enough arse licking.
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Re: Rules

Postby m0lsx » Fri Dec 30, 2016 10:15 pm

yupiteru wrote:
AndrewIrvine wrote:I still haven't heard from any admin or moderators, only wannabe ones.

I can't post in 'Advanced' because I'm not one.



Thats because your not a radio ham and you dont do enough arse licking.



Wrong...

AndrewIrvine wrote: I've owned a scanner or receiver since about 1990, I've been finding and posting on the internet since 1999, I'm amateur and RYC licenced too, it's hardly just a passing phase for me.
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