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Hi guys need a little help if possible

Postby M4rc » Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:33 am

I bought a baofeng uv-5r the other day, i also bought a whip style antenna for better coverage. I'm in the cardiff area in a block of flats so pretty high up but i can't seem to pick up anything on my baofeng radio/scanner. I put a few frequencies in but i think they might be outdated ones.

Has anyone got any updated frequencies for the cardiff area please

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Re: Hi guys need a little help if possible

Postby m0lsx » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:17 am

Welcome to the forum.
First thing to make you aware of is the fact that your radio is not a scanner. It is a transceiver that scans a few channels.
There are licence free frequencies, where transceiver that are built to set specifications can be used legally, but your radio is not one of them. So under the 2006 Wireless Telegraphy Act you need a licence to use your radio.
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0024/89016/Guide-to-the-use-of-radio-transmitters-and-the-law.pdf
Without a licence you risk a potentially very heavy penalty.
The above is for your own reference & lots of people own & use transceivers with no licence & live perfectly trouble free lives. But others choose not to use a transceiver, often because they are very poor scanners, or because criminal prosecution is not desirable to them, especially when in theory it could lead to a fine of up to £5000 per offence &/or up to 2 years imprisonment & that is, as I said, per offence, so each time you use your radio.
Reality is most fines are only for a few hundred pounds & most people manage to use transceivers, even on transmit totally trouble free. So what you do is up to you. But at least now it's an informed choice.
You may also find that some people here are less likely to share frequencies with you, as a transceiver can obviously be used for causing deliberate interference with legal users.
And that is problems for the people we listen to & thus it damages our hobby. So you may find that as we do not know you, help to program your transceiver with active frequencies is not as forthcoming as for those with scanners.
Last year in Glasgow someone was convicted of using a radio like yours to cause big problems to legal users across Glasgow. And someone else using a transceivers slightly different to yours caused issues to Air Traffic Control at Cambridge Airport & last year or the year before someone caused big issues at a prison south of London.
And the above is ignoring the fake SOS calls on marine band, which your radio is more than capable of being used for & which sadly are far from uncommon.
Having said the above what are you wanting to listen to?
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Re: Hi guys need a little help if possible

Postby M4rc » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:53 pm

Hi thanks for your reply. I got no intentions to transmit all i wan't to do i receive. I have set my radio to only receive so will not be doing any transmitting.

Just wanna listen to a few frequencies from around the cardiff area. I tried testing my baofeng on the national weather channel but still can't receive anything so i don't no if i have the up to date frequencies.

I'm just looking for some up to date frequencies for the cardiff area.

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Re: Hi guys need a little help if possible

Postby G4RMT » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:20 pm

National weather channel? In America maybe, but we don't have these things here. Firstly - what do you want to actually hear? If you are up high in some flats - the start with some obvious stuff. Ships and boats. Channel 16 is 156.800, and there is some kind of barrage thing on channel 18 (156.900). if you search between 156 and 162MHz you might hear other marine stuff. Look between 145 and 146 for radio hams, and 430-440 for more of them. Business radio will be between 165-170MHz, and UHF business from 451ish to 470. A few short range channels are between 446 and 447 - but all this stuff is on the net with a bit of Googling.
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Re: Hi guys need a little help if possible

Postby M4rc » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:33 pm

I have tried the most common frequencies. been scanning all day between frequencies and still can't pick up anything.
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Re: Hi guys need a little help if possible

Postby m0lsx » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:03 pm

M4rc wrote: been scanning all day between frequencies and still can't pick up anything.


How are you doing that? The UV-5r is only capable of listening to programmed channels, not scanning between frequencies. Or not unless they have changed them since I had mine, they can't.
What settings do you have programmed in for each channel?
The radio you have is designed to be programmed by someone who knows what they are doing & then be locked to a couple of channels at the most & maybe scan those.
It is not a radioaimed at being usable out of the box by someone with no knowledge.
Each channel has to be programmed with tone, band width etc & get something wrong & you will not hear anything. Also at best the scan facility is clunky & slow. You are also potentially missing things even with only a few channels programmed.
My very old Realistic would scan 200 channels much quicker than my 5r would scan 10. I found 5 channels was the most I wanted scanning with any of my cheap far east PMR transceivers.
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Re: Hi guys need a little help if possible

Postby M4rc » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:10 pm

I have programmed a few cardiff frequencies in earlier and been scanning on them for hours with no luck. I followed a video on youtube about setting it up to just receive and what setting to have it on. Just not having any luck with it at all.
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Re: Hi guys need a little help if possible

Postby G4RMT » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:51 am

How far are you from water? If you programme in 156.800, narrow, with no tones then the coastguard will pop up at least once in the morning and afternoon with the maritime safety broadcast message, that tells you usually two or more frequencies to listen on depending on your area. How far is Pontypridd?

GB3BC – Pontypridd 2m analogue voice repeater. Band: 2M ( RV60) Output frequency: 145.7500MHz

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Re: Hi guys need a little help if possible

Postby m0lsx » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:12 pm

Also what is the terrain like between you & water? If you live on a high spot with a clear view you could stations from miles away. If you live in a low spot with trees, tall buildings etc around you, you may not hear something from a few hundred yards away.
Also how is your squelch set? It needs to be far enough to the right to stop normal levels of static being heard, but not too far to stop weakish signals from being heard.
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