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Newbie Help Please

Postby Banjoboy » Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:32 pm

Hi my first time on this forum, hello to all.
I am a complete novice when it comes to scanners. Miracculously I converted an ordinary off the shelf radio to civil aircraft band many years ago and tuned into mainly Gatwick whilst I understand much of the chat terminology, I am completely floored by the operation of scanners.
Two days ago I purchased a Uniden UBC 125 XLT. I cannot receive a single sound even when I press scan or search. It stops at a few intervals with just noise. I really do not understand what I should be doing. What are channels, bands, plans, searches, scans etc and how do they relate to each other. I've watched youtube videos but they are restricted to showing how to enter a frequency.
I live near Worthing and may be able to pick up signals from Shoreham. I regularly visit Manchester and stay virtually at the end of the runway. This was my main reason for obtaining a scanner.
If anyone can start me off and point me in the right direction to get some response from this scanner it would most appreciated.
Thanks in advance
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Re: Newbie Help Please

Postby m0lsx » Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:24 pm

Edited to add..Welcome to the forum.. :wave: :wave: :wave:


What you need to do is program in some frequencies to scan & make sure you are using the bast band plan to search with.

Scanning is where a radio scans the programs that you have programmed into the radio.
The Search facility uses pre selected band plans to search between a lowest & a highest frequency in set channel steps.
To use search effectively, you need to set the correct band plan & not having a 125. I'm not sure what that is.

Manchester airport frequencies can be found at...https://ukradioscanning.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=77

The following may also be of interest..

jonnyboyy wrote:Hi John V, I use http://www.flightradar24.com with my scanner here's some frequencies: 120.5250 Biggin, 120.1750 Timba, 134.975 Biggin/Compton holds and this frequency takes over in the evening 119.7250, 135.3250 Seaford south.

EGKK Gatwick Gatwick Director 126.825 AM KimmyJS19
EGKK Gatwick Gatwick Director 118.950 AM KimmyJS19
EGKK Gatwick Gatwick Director 129.025 AM KimmyJS19
EGKK Gatwick Gatwick Tower 124.225 AM KimmyJS19
EGKK Gatwick Gatwick Tower 134.225 AM KimmyJS19
EGKK Gatwick Gatwick Delivery 121.950 AM KimmyJS19
EGKK Gatwick Gatwick Ground 121.800 AM KimmyJS19
EGKK Gatwick Gatwick Fire 121.600 AM KimmyJS19

Gatwick TWR - 455.775 GND - 455.475 AFS - 455.635 these are ground ops frequencies in NFM.

I would say the route the aircraft takes you would need these WORTHING (HURN EAST) 135.0500 or SEAFORD 135.3250 or WORTHING (HURN WEST) 129.4250 they would then hand off to LGW Director.

Happy Scanning.

Jonny. :thumbup:


Flight Radar 24 is great if aircraft interest you, it can either be free or just a few £'s per year to use..

https://www.flightradar24.com/

And as you are close to shipping, like me up here in Norfolk, then take a look at...

http://www.marinetraffic.com/

Marine channels zero (156.000) & 16 (156.800) are worth having where you are..

Channel Zero is Coastguard, Helicopter etc etc.
Channel 16. Is distress.
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Re: Newbie Help Please

Postby Banjoboy » Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:27 pm

Thank you m0lsx
I am at last getting some overhead aircraft chat - it appears to be military and only very short burst from the aircraft only as the base is miles away.
But from what you have advised - I will give these options a try. It is probably a case of try, learn, make some mistakes and retry.

For anyone who owns a XLT 125.........
Am I correct in thinking that, Channels are Frequencies, Bands are part of plans? Plans are a program?
Would it be good to program all Manchester Frequencies into a Band say Band 1 then goto band 1 when near Manchester?
How does one go to a specific Band to set frequencies to, then how does one go to that band to scan for those frequencies?
It appears to me that Band 5 is already set for Aircraft on my 125?

Thanks in advance anyone
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Re: Newbie Help Please

Postby Nighthawk999 » Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:55 pm

Hi,I can't really help you with most of the stuff..plenty on here that can though..I have my 125 set to Band Plan 2,which seems to be the one most suited to the UK.
The 125 seems a pain to get the hang of at first,but then suddenly it all falls into place,so stick with it,ask for help,and you'll be fine.
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Re: Newbie Help Please

Postby Scan125 » Sat Aug 26, 2017 5:52 pm

With scanners/scanning then terminology can be different to what you may be used to:

Keys to what follows:

(T) = traditional/common radio reception/transmission terminology
(S) = common scanner terminology

(T) Band: This is a frequency range. eg Long Wave, Medium Wave, Short Wave, VLF, MF, HF, VHF, UHF etc.
(T) Channel: A channel is a defined numerical number aligned to a service and specific frequency. e.g. CB Channel or Marine Channel

(S) Channel: Channel is a physical location/memory slot in a Bank (see Bank) - each programmed channel will have a (user) define frequency & other settings
(S) Bank: Is a collection of Channels. 125XLT has 50 Channels per Bank and 10 Banks
(S) Band Plan: Allows a scanner to vary the DEFAULT range of values allocated to any given range of frequencies (change upper/lower freqs, modulation, steps, etc)

The UBC125XLT has 3 scan/search/services "options" (arrangements). Each has Banks.

Scan: These are user defined *Specific* Frequencies programmed into a particular Channel in a particular scanner memory Bank (10 banks of 50 channels each)
Search: These are *Default* Frequency *Ranges* defined in 10 Banks (user can change)
Services: The are pre-defined *Fixed* frequency ranges that cover general radio frequencies. e.g. Marine, Air Band, CB etc.

How you decide to allocate and arrange your user frequencies is totally up to you. It sounds like the provider/retailer of you scanner has chosen to pre-populate Scan Bank 5 with air band frequencies for you.

The rest is up to you :)
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Re: Newbie Help Please

Postby Banjoboy » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:25 pm

Hi Scan 125

Many, many thanks for all your help, although it still appears not the most user friendly device with what you have said it makes a lot more sense to me. I will try out your suggestions.

Also thank you to all that have helped me out on this topic.

Cheers
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Re: Newbie Help Please

Postby m0lsx » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:40 pm

I posted the following sometime ago, that covers the basics of scanning.

https://ukradioscanning.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4108
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Re: Newbie Help Please

Postby m3bsf » Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:33 am

I also have a 125 XLT and "Scan 125" is the way to go, the 125 XLT Handbook is not easy to understand but you will find lots of people here who are only to happy to help you so stick with it you will not be disappointed .
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Re: Newbie Help Please

Postby Scan125 » Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:09 am

If nothing else have a read of the Scan125 Control Program User Manual here: http://nick-bailey.co.uk/scan125/Manual/Scan125-Manual.html

Although written specifically for the program much of the information, pictures, etc. will give an alterative view/idea about the 125 series of scanners.
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Re: Newbie Help Please

Postby Banjoboy » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:11 pm

Thank you Scan125 and everyone else thta has contributed in helping me understand my newly acquired scanner.

I have been experiencing difficulty in Close Call interrupting my listening with bursts of loud noise. There is help on her about this but even when I go into Close Call mode and turn Close Call off it still interrupts with loud noise.

Just one more question - how does one just simply turn the scanner on and type in and go to a particular frequency.

Thanks in advance for any help
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