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Postby paulie b » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:17 pm

Hi. I'm completely new to scanning. I was looking for a hobby and chose this. I own a Uniden UBC92XLT which is fitted with a 'long range' 41cm rubber ariel. Thus far I am rather disappointed with the lack of signals I have been able to receive. I was at a retail park the other day and was expecting to pick up quite a bit of chat from the shops there, but (apart from a few odd seconds of airliner talk) I got nothing. Am I doing something wrong? If so, what?

Any help/pointers will be gratefully received.
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Re: Advice please.

Postby m0lsx » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:36 pm

paulie b wrote:Hi. I'm completely new to scanning. I was looking for a hobby and chose this. I own a Uniden UBC92XLT which is fitted with a 'long range' 41cm rubber ariel. Thus far I am rather disappointed with the lack of signals I have been able to receive. I was at a retail park the other day and was expecting to pick up quite a bit of chat from the shops there, but (apart from a few odd seconds of airliner talk) I got nothing. Am I doing something wrong? If so, what?

Any help/pointers will be gratefully received.



First welcome to the hobby & the forum.

The longer antenna, will not give you much more range, just a stronger signal on weak signals.
Some of the shops use digital which you cannot & radio commercial two way traffic is not like say Radio 2. It only takes place when it needs to & often the conversation is over in just a few overs. An individual transmission from one radio to the other.
Did you use the close Call at the retail park & if not what frequencies were you monitoring.
And no, you are probably doing nothing wrong.
If you use the following link, it will allow you to do a google search of this site. Just put in you location & it will tell you if anything has been logged local to you.

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Re: Advice please.

Postby Minus1 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:37 pm

Retail frequencies will generally be in 453-453.9875 or 456.0-456.9875, plus a few in 455.475-455.975
In large urban areas also try 440-443.4875 and 445.5-445.9875

'A few second of airliner talk' suggests you are searching completely the wrong bands, which will be why you didn't catch anything.

What area are you in?
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Re: Advice please.

Postby paulie b » Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:34 pm

Thanks for the replies. Yes I did use close call but got nothing. I have programmed (I think - having looked on you tube?!) PMR frequencies into channel one. I scanned this channel to no avail.

I'm in South Yorks. How do I search frequencies which may be in use within the retail environment or indeed other stuff? Any help will be much appreciated.
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Re: Advice please.

Postby G4RMT » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:35 am

The advice of looking in the right place is crucial. There's no device as a long range antenna for a handheld radio. Long could be 100m? If you are at the shopping centre then the best advice is to look at the radios - a thin antenna up to 6" long suggests UHF, at the frequencies in minus1's post, but if they are thicker - about 10mm thick, they could be VHF, so they'll be down somewhere in the 164-171 area. Many sadly also use digital, so these you won't get -just nasty buzzing noises.

Aircraft band is AM, and much lower in frequency, so you've not quite got the hang of the radio yet. You may indeed be searching the wrong bands - or have put the wrong info into the radio. Can you tell us what you have set?
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Re: Advice please.

Postby Metradio » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:04 pm

Perhaps the shop radios are not being used that often..

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Re: Advice please.

Postby m0lsx » Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:35 pm

Metradio wrote:Perhaps the shop radios are not being used that often..

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If they have them at all. My eldest daughter works in a large retail unit on a retail park & they have no radios & the same with most of the other units.
The likes of Tesco's, Sainsburys etc all have radios, but the likes of say Boots & furniture retailers do not. And being a retail unit rather than a Mall, there is no security or cleaners wandering around.
My youngest daughter works in one of Norwichs two malls & there is a fair amount of radio traffic, but none of it comes from the stores.
The likes of Tesco's etc all have PMR light/simple licences, so those frequencies are worth programming. To keep your number of memory channels low, ignore the VHF frequencies.

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Re: Advice please.

Postby paulie b » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:24 pm

Thanks for the feedback. It is helpful and much appreciated. I was at a retail park earlier today and did pick up some transmissions on the PMR frequencies. I was getting the buzzing noise which I presume from an earlier post was digital transmission.

I have the following PMR programmed into my scanner: 446.008 446.0187 446.0312 446.0437 446.0562 446.0687 446.0812 446.0937

I bought a Moonraker Skyscan external (car roof) antenna while I was out. Trying it out when I got back to my car, I didn't notice any real difference but it seems to work better now I am at home. I put it on the window sill and started to pick up clear aircraft signals and a bit of general PMR stuff (the latter which I had not heard before).

I plan to drive to some high ground and try and see what (it anything) it will pick up. I don't know what to expect from the moonraker in terms of performance.
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