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UK: Details for the Emergency Services Network.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:57 am
by m0lsx
The U.K. government released a prior information notice (PIN) for devices to operate on the Emergency Services Network (ESN), the public-safety Long Term Evolution (LTE) nationwide network planned to replace the country’s TETRA network managed by Airwave.

The Secretary of State for the Home Department intends to put in place a dynamic purchasing system (DPS) for use by the three emergency services and other ESN users. The estimated duration of the ESN devices DPS is a minimum of four years, and the estimated cost is between 30 to 150 million pounds (US$39 million to US$197.1 million).

The requirements include establishing a DPS for ESN devices, accessories and services to allow suppliers to bid for and supply ESN-approved devices. Approved devices will be tested to ensure they are capable of carrying out public-safety communications services and do not adversely affect the ESN and/or the Airwave network.

The department is requiring 1,500 production standard trial devices of various types for operational trials and pilots starting mid-2017. These trials devices will be procured incrementally, using the DPS, for the operational trials and pilots. About 300,000 production standard devices will be required for the three emergency services to transition from Airwave to ESN with the first procurement starting in the second quarter of 2017, prior to the start of the first regional transition in September 2017.

The categories of devices include the following:
• Handheld devices — standard, ruggedized, single and dual-mode LTE/TETRA devices;
• Specialist — direct device-to-device communications;
• Active accessories — wireless, wired and batteries;
• Passive accessories — cases and device carriage on clothing;
• Vehicle devices — four-wheel vehicle ESN modems, devices and gateway devices and two-wheel vehicle ESN devices and waterborne ESN devices;
• Vehicle accessories;
• Vehicle installation design and implementation;
• Managed services; and
• Unified — any combination of the other categories

There will be 12 regions with a staggered start, and each region will take up to a year to transition. The transition is forecast to last up to 27 months and should be completed by the end of 2019.


Taken from Southgate ARC's news site.

Re: UK: Details for the Emergency Services Network.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:28 am
by USAFE501
Hi guys,
Has anyone seen any prototype devices at all for this network ? I imagine handhelds looking more towards smart-phone looking ? or still looking like a handheld but with bigger display ? All I know is 20 + years in the Fire Service means anything that doesn't have the strength of a solid brick of steel, as waterproof as a mermaids purse and an antennae designed to be used as a handle and can be swung around by it like an Olympic hammer thrower, well anything less than this wont be any good for those in big red lorries !!!!!
I know of one Fire Service that trialled "Blackberry " type devises with one of those small pencil type stylus.....after about a week, stylus goes missing and firefighters used anything pen shaped instead....cocktail sticks, nails , screws - resulted in 30 devises being rendered "beyond economical repair" with damage screens !!!!! :laughs: :laughs:

And what will happen to existing Airwave network ? I did read article in magazine by Chris Lorek the radio guru who helped many radio amateurs convert ex police analogue radios for use on Ham bands...he mentions will there be a steady supply of surplus ex-police Airwave radios in the same way when they changed from analogue ?
I do know that some Fire Services have replaced their existing Fireground Radios (UHF allocation 457mhz - not part of the Airwave plan a few years back) - replaced with UHF handhelds with DMR/Analogue capabilities to be able to communicate with bordering Fire Services at incidents. I guess the new network to replace AIRWAVE/Tetra will again leave fireground comms alone ?

Be interested to see what happens.....
USAFE501 Kevin

Re: UK: Details for the Emergency Services Network.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:34 pm
by m0lsx
The Sepura radios are already readily available from places such as ebay.
My understanding is that the new system will be mobile phone style handhelds.

Re: UK: Details for the Emergency Services Network.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:17 pm
by Minus1
USAFE501 wrote: I guess the new network to replace AIRWAVE/Tetra will again leave fireground comms alone ?


We can but hope that somebody is more interested in fighting fires than in spending money …

Re: UK: Details for the Emergency Services Network.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:02 pm
by Metradio
Minus1 wrote:....We can but hope that somebody is more interested in fighting fires AND spending money …

Fixed that for you...

Mike

Re: UK: Details for the Emergency Services Network.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:22 pm
by redman99
USAFE501 wrote:Hi guys,
Has anyone seen any prototype devices at all for this network ? I imagine handhelds looking more towards smart-phone looking ? or still looking like a handheld but with bigger display ? All I know is 20 + years in the Fire Service means anything that doesn't have the strength of a solid brick of steel, as waterproof as a mermaids purse and an antennae designed to be used as a handle and can be swung around by it like an Olympic hammer thrower, well anything less than this wont be any good for those in big red lorries !!!!!
I know of one Fire Service that trialled "Blackberry " type devises with one of those small pencil type stylus.....after about a week, stylus goes missing and firefighters used anything pen shaped instead....cocktail sticks, nails , screws - resulted in 30 devises being rendered "beyond economical repair" with damage screens !!!!! :laughs: :laughs:

And what will happen to existing Airwave network ? I did read article in magazine by Chris Lorek the radio guru who helped many radio amateurs convert ex police analogue radios for use on Ham bands...he mentions will there be a steady supply of surplus ex-police Airwave radios in the same way when they changed from analogue ?
I do know that some Fire Services have replaced their existing Fireground Radios (UHF allocation 457mhz - not part of the Airwave plan a few years back) - replaced with UHF handhelds with DMR/Analogue capabilities to be able to communicate with bordering Fire Services at incidents. I guess the new network to replace AIRWAVE/Tetra will again leave fireground comms alone ?

Be interested to see what happens.....
USAFE501 Kevin
Will the new system have airtime charges or totally free to use, as many calls as you like ?

Re: UK: Details for the Emergency Services Network.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 2:47 pm
by Metradio
redman99 wrote:... Will the new system have airtime charges or totally free to use, as many calls as you like ?


I think deep down you already know the answer :sad:

Mike

Re: UK: Details for the Emergency Services Network.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:09 pm
by redman99
Oh dear dear & projected/promissed coverage in rural area's will be ?
I do know that a number of Tetra sites were turned off in my local area due to costs.
Not a problem, officer's use normal mobile networks instead.
Will this indeed be the case on the Tetra replacement to overcome the out of service area's.
Where I live you do need twin sim card phones in order to stand a chance of using the networks.
I do feel much will be promised & again little delivered.