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Re: Draft of new exam syllabus now available.

Postby lars » Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:21 am

G4RMT wrote:If for some reason there was a need for skilled HF operators (remember Independence Day?) they could find them pretty quickly. [...] If the world fell apart and they introduced conscription, Royal Signals would get the hams wouldn't they.


I'm not sure I want to be on anybody's list. Another good reason to stick with my foundation, I think :)

Incidentally, I don't know what "RV & V" is, either. But the world of radio is stuffed with abbreviations and jargon that I don't understand, so this isn't at the top of my list of worries.
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Re: Draft of new exam syllabus now available.

Postby m0lsx » Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:25 am

G4RMT wrote:
the 2 meters channels were listed on the given band plan as RV & V...HE DID NOT KNOW

What is RV and V. I don't think I have ever heard this term. Is it something I've missed and very important?


Honestly if you had the band plan in front of you it would make perfect sense to you..
You would have looked at the frequencies used & realised it was the input & output frequencies for the VHF Repeaters. He looked & panicked.
The V was on the bandplan instead of an S for Simplex as it was a VHF Simplex channels.
But more importantly he had been asked to do that training & had not made sure he understood what he was going to train. He just used the Foundation training book as his knowledge for the subject & as the book did not tell him the answer, he did not know the answer.
This trainer was new to the hobby, a qualified teacher & well versed in science. BUT he knew Image about operating or the hobby in general. And he was not use to having to understand his subject or being questioned about it. He was a poor trainer.
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Re: Draft of new exam syllabus now available.

Postby lars » Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:07 am

OK. I just looked at the RSGB 2m band plan, and it does indeed use the notation "Vxxx" and "RVxxx". It's reasonably clear (I think) from the context what they mean, but the abbreviations aren't explained -- not on the page I'm looking at, anyway. I guess "R" stands for "repeater", but "V"? Voice? I note that other bands have allocations for repeater inputs and outputs, but the "R" and "RV" notation is only used on the 2m page. The abbreviation "DV" (digital voice, I guess) turns up elswhere.

Maybe the trainer you mention was inept, but I think the RSGB has to take a share of the blame here. Among many other people, I've been beating on the RSGB for its inconsistent use of abbreviation and terminology. There is now an abbreviations summary on their website, but I note that it still omits a lot of the terms used in their own band plans.
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Re: Draft of new exam syllabus now available.

Postby G4RMT » Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:32 pm

I never knew the S numbers had gone. I still hear people saying (as I drive across the country) QSY S22, or down to 17 or similar. S20 is now V40, and my local VHF repeater is RV50 - although I have no idea how V48 is (145.5935MHz) as it says on this page.http://rsgb.org/main/operating/band-plans/vhf-uhf/144mhz-band/
Is that a typo? How can RV and V be a different number that doesn't appear to be 12.5KHz spaced, but 6.25 down from 48?????


More confused than ever now I have read the RSGB data
Nestled between the repeater input and output frequencies are around thirty simplex channels. These all adopt a 12.5kHz spacing regime and are designated V16 (145.200MHz) through to V48 (145.5935MHz). Here you will find both fixed station and mobile activity especially around the mobile calling channel on 145.500MHz.

I hope they don't ask the question what frequency is V48 in the exam!
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Re: Draft of new exam syllabus now available.

Postby m0lsx » Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:46 pm

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