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Firebrigade yorkshire

PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:27 am
by Fire1160
Hello all and cheers for the add extreamly well appreciated im a 40year old bloke that come out of the fire brigade becouse of a hart defect what id like to know is can somebody please explain how the firebrigade now comunicate im old school and remember bethore it went digital im in east yorkshire thankyou

Re: Fire brigade yorkshire

PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:32 am
by Minus1
They use TETRA where they used to use analog VHF.
Airwave TETRA base transmissions are between 390 and 395 MHz, mobile between 380 and 385.
Base transmitters are on permanently so easy to find.
Base and mobile are 10 MHz apart, so when you find your nearest base station frequencies (they are always at least 2 freqs per site), you will know the base frequencies.
Each frequency can carry four channels. One channel per site is the control channel which carries data.
Whilst you cannot hear any audio because it is digital and encrypted, you can sometimes detect activity on or around the mobile freqs.
On Uniden scanners, I find that scanning the freq 12.5 kHz below each mobile freq works best.
With an SDR you can see data signals on the frequency that carries the control channel, but very hard to hear on audio.
Of course other emergency services use the same system — so you can't tell which agency is using it

Most Fire Brigades still use analog FM on UHF for handheld "fireground" radios:

455.9875 FM Fire:7 / Fire:8 Fireground :7 Simplex / :8 Control vehicle based repeater?
457.0125 FM Fire:3 Fireground handhelds. BA Primary?
457.0375 FM Fire:1 Fireground handhelds. Primary
457.0875 FM Fire:2 Fireground Repeater. (Fixed installation at some major sites like airports & prisons)
457.1375 FM Fire:5 Fireground Repeater Output
457.1875 FM Fire:4 Fireground handhelds • HP • RAF fire?
457.2375 FM Fire:6 Fireground handhelds. Water relay appliances (exercise)
457.4875 FM Fire:9? Fire Service BA? ""BA Team""

462.5375 FM Fire:8 Fireground:8 (repeater input)
462.5875 FM Fire:2 Fireground:2 (repeater input)
462.6375 FM Fire:5 Fireground:5 (repeater input)

Re: Firebrigade yorkshire

PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:48 pm
by Fire1160
Thankyou so much you have been realy helpfull becouse of the hart condition i struggle to get around much but id love to hear the old crew on the pumps it means so much to me you have made a silly old man a very happy bloke again thankyou :biggrin:

Re: Firebrigade yorkshire

PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:15 pm
by Fire1160
I have a radioshack pro 2096 and just my luck the banding disapears so carnt get the base or mobiles could you recomend any sofwear so im able to do it and once again thankyou the handhelds are in other eqipment now :embarrased:

Re: Firebrigade yorkshire

PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:59 pm
by thelad
Fire1160 wrote:I have a radioshack pro 2096 and just my luck the banding disapears so carnt get the base or mobiles could you recomend any sofwear so im able to do it and once again thankyou the handhelds are in other eqipment now :embarrased:



Just to point out you wont hear any chatter from Airwave on your scanner.

Re: Firebrigade yorkshire

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:30 am
by Minus1
With that scanner, only the UHF Fireground freqs will be available to you.
An SDR will let you receive everything, but stated TETRA is digital & encrypted.

Re: Firebrigade yorkshire

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:43 pm
by Alfie
You want to put 457.0375 in your scanner as that is THE primary and main channel for all uk fire brigades and the channel you will find them on at 99.9% of incidents and fireground though at big incidents you will find many of the 457 channels in use at the same time but 457.0375 is the one. Mix of analogue and digital but i think yorkshire are still analogue so you should get them alright on your scanner. as a ex firefighter you know the difference between the fireground radios and control radios and the fireground are the ones you can still get.

Re: Firebrigade yorkshire

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:00 pm
by Fire1160
Thankyou to everyone thats helped im also now looking at the rsp2 and the funcube dongle i just want to swich it on and lissen any sugestions will be appreciated once the softwear is in the lap top im hopeing not to use the internet thankyou again :thumbup:

Re: Firebrigade yorkshire

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:44 pm
by Metradio
The PRO 2096 will receive everything that is listenable to, apart from a decent outside antenna nothing else is required..

Mike

Re: Firebrigade yorkshire

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:27 pm
by Fire1160
Ive tried to input the main frequencys in and it just keeps saying that its outta bands to be realy honest it has me beat do i need some type of computer input program to make it decode the manuals not brilliant for explaing all im getting is the tones :embarrased: