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2m & 70cm Handheld

Postby 2E0UCW » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:37 pm

Hi all,

I'm going to do my foundation licence in a few months and was planning to get a decent (but not too expensive) handheld.
Can anyone suggest one that is 10W or close to 10W (the max allowed by a foundation licence holder)?

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Re: 2m & 70cm Handheld

Postby 2E0KCE » Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:33 am

Try RigPix mate lots of radio info there for you to help decide..just google rigpix..and away you go..I have a Quansheng TG UV 2..which only does 5 watts max but a great little hand held good for portable work out in the hills round Halifax where I live..good luck on the course..
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Re: 2m & 70cm Handheld

Postby Mark5R » Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:16 am

You wont get a 10 watt handheld as 5 watts is generally the limit on handhelds. for more power you will need a base or mobile unit. Now is a good time for looking for cheap dual band handhelds as there are a lot available. Baofeng are a popular affordable choice or for a bit more quality get something like a yaesu ft-60
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Re: 2m & 70cm Handheld

Postby m0lsx » Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:16 am

Good luck on the course.
There is a 8 watt handheld, but I think it's a 2 meter only radio..Someone I think Moonraker, was advertising as selling it recently..However I think it was an obscure manufacturer & I would not expect much from the battery at 8 watts, plus if it does cover 70cm, I would hope the power level is well below that 8 watts, as I am not sure I would want that much RF close to my head at UHF.
The difference between 5 & 10 watts is minimal anyhow, as to get one single S point difference in signal, you would need to double the power & then double that.
My wife has a small (very small) handheld, a Yaesu VX-2R, that only does 1.5 watts into a very small antenna & performance is not that much down on my 5 watt Yaesu VX-7R..So don't get hung up on watts too much.
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Re: 2m & 70cm Handheld

Postby SilverShadow » Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:26 am

Yep, you'll find the antenna and your position makes a lot more difference than an extra few watts. When you do your foundation you'll learn about ERP and how gain on antennas can increse your effective output power.

The foundation is fairly straightforward with a good pass rate, it's often held over the course of two days and is multiple choice. It's a good idea to get the "Foundation Now" booklet or try your hand at some of the sample foundation tests online to get you ready for it.
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Re: 2m & 70cm Handheld

Postby 2E0UCW » Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:18 pm

Thanks for all the replies.

The course starts in a month - 7 weeks of a few hours on a Wednesday evening. The book has been ordered from RSGB last night which I will have to read in depth as my technical knowledge is limited to changing a light bulb.

I currently have a Baofeng UV-5R with a few accessories. I'm going to try get a holder like those used for mobiles so I can above dash height. I have a speaker mic to make it easier whilst driving. My Baofeng picks up a lot as I use it to scan the repeaters whilst on the road but I will have to look for an aerial (magmount) to put on the roof. The plan is to mount an aerial at home - hopefully one that also covers RX on most freq;'s from around 25-1200MHz so I cover both amateur and scanning.

I've also been looking at a Yaesu that has RX on 2m & 70cm as well as RX covering a wide range of freq's as I'm into scanning especially airband as I'm near Heathrow. I've thought of getting a radio in the car but as I have a fairly new Corsa (which I plan to trade-in in a few years), I'm not sure how and where to mount it or getting a permanent aerial without leaving some marks or holes. Also, I think a handheld is more conveniant to move between the car and house than having one in the car and one at home (and a handie when away from both).

Overall, I've decided to start planning now as I dont really have the cash to get a small kit then replace it with a better kit later - rather get a decent (but not too expensive) setup done at the start so I get good receiption (I usually pick up the Harrow repeater but got as far as Oxford the other day when I was at Heathrow).
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Re: 2m & 70cm Handheld

Postby m0lsx » Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:37 pm

The simplest antenna is a mag mount..Which is simply a magnet that holds your antenna on the car..
It is possible to get a 2 meter & 70cm micro mag with antenna, coax etc for about £20 or less & these do work nicely, we often use one on our car as my daughter can use her handheld in the back with it, or I can use it on the scanner & use a main radio too.
For my scanner / handheld tranciever I have used a drinks holder for about 10 years..I brought one that mounts on the air vents & then removed the air vent & tied it to the vent to hold it firmly in place & it works a treat with everything but anything that my 38cm long so called high gain antenna is attached to.
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Re: 2m & 70cm Handheld

Postby SilverShadow » Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:31 am

CDAW wrote:I've thought of getting a radio in the car but as I have a fairly new Corsa (which I plan to trade-in in a few years), I'm not sure how and where to mount it or getting a permanent aerial without leaving some marks or holes.


One of these might be good for you...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MINISCAN-MAGN ... 0717445836

No modification to the car needed you can put it on the roof and take off at will, low price, wide coverage and TX on the ham bands. There are better mobile antennas but this is a low cost no fuss improvement over the rubber duck.
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Re: 2m & 70cm Handheld

Postby m0lsx » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:40 pm

I would not normally recommend Moonraker, but at £39.95 for a Baofeng UV-5RC that is legal to use in the UK by a foundation licence holder, this is a good buy...

http://www.moonraker.eu/amateur-radio-1/transceivers-and-brand-accessories/handheld-transceivers/baofeng/baofeng-uv-5rc-dual-band-handheld-new-2013-version
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Re: 2m & 70cm Handheld

Postby 2E0UCW » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:28 pm

What is the difference between the Baofeng UV-5R and UV-5RC? I have the UV-5R with a speaker mic and Diamond RH-771 aerial.

I see that Intek Radio has a high power version of the V-5R called the KT-980HP with 8W VHF and 7W UHF for £60.00 - the quality looks better than the Baofeng.

The mag mount looks good and also covers the RX frequencies I use on my scanner - I've got a BNC to SMA adaptor which will sort out connecting to the transceiver.

Now just to find one for home that I can mount on my shed which should then pick up my local repeaters (I can pick them up well sometimes with my handheld).

Would i have any planning issues with putting up a base aerial? The shed is at the rear of the yard with tall trees behind it (the repeaters are in the opposite direction).

I've decided to stick to a handheld then I can use it in the car and then take it to the shed - just need to get a car charger and spare charger for the shed.

Hopefully this would all work so I can get started without having to spend a fortune.
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