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Why is programming software universally horrible?

Postby G4RMT » Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:56 am

Does anyone know why the typical programming software for radios, and not just the Chinese ones make the job so hard? Basic features like copy and paste that don't function. You always have big blocks of common text like marine band channel 12, that is followed by marine band channel 14, yet often you cannot copy the first and just change 1 digit, you have to restyle the entire thing, same with frequencies, and ctcss tones and now colour codes and groups. Some allow you to copy a page and then paste it which helps but they all lack the basic ability to highlight text and then copy it. Having an RT-82 on one screen and an MD-380 on the other, why can I just not copy and paste between pages? Is there some computer programming issue that stops a block of highlighted text going into the clipboard? I cannot believe such a basic concept is somehow unavailable? It makes life so difficult and even when you can output a Csv file my experience so far of editing it and then getting it back in in a form where it works is not simple. Looking at the data format between same brand radios, the manufacturers design a whole new order for the dat in each model. Surely just adding new features at the end would make sense, but no - they put them in the middle! Grrrrrr
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Re: Why is programming software universally horrible?

Postby lars » Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:02 am

I think it's because the most tedious, unrewarding part of writing software is making it useable by other people. The amount of effort involved is out of all proportion to the reward gained by the programmer, as most programmers are motivated by technical challenges, not social ones. Large softare companies can afford to employ people just to work on user interfaces, and other people to study how people interact with their software. Smaller businesses don't have this luxury. Software developed by hobbyists (and that includes professional developers working on non-commercial stuff) is the worst, because there's just no incentive for a hobbyist to make the software useable.
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Re: Why is programming software universally horrible?

Postby m0lsx » Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:04 pm

G4RMT wrote:Does anyone know why the typical programming software for radios, and not just the Chinese ones make the job so hard?


My guess would be because the software is almost a second thought. It's an extra & nothing they make much money on, so why bother?
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Re: Why is programming software universally horrible?

Postby G4RMT » Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:05 pm

I take your point but if you buy a legit copy from Motorola, Icom or Kenwood, it's not exactly cheap is it? Surely their dealers who have to programme perhaps hundreds of radios for projects would appreciate something that made the job easier?
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Re: Why is programming software universally horrible?

Postby m0lsx » Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:33 pm

My experience of working for dealers in a different industry, is that the manufacturers tend see a dealer as just another part of the sales system. Rather than as an important part of the way that thier customers experience the brand name.
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Re: Why is programming software universally horrible?

Postby BlackKnight_UK » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:24 am

The only software I've used is Proscan and I have no complaints, its easy to use and does what you want without any hassle.
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Re: Why is programming software universally horrible?

Postby G4RMT » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:22 pm

The ones I use are all very similar - It's just so annoying that you can type, say "453.3375" into a box, but even highlighted, you cannot ctrl-C then ctrl-V tp paste the same details into the box next door! Such a simple thing! Now code plugs can be so huge, and contain virtually identical data in different radios - it's so long winded to have to enter hundreds of channels in one at a time!
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