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Airwave - extended

Postby G4RMT » Thu May 10, 2018 4:11 pm

Looks like Airwave is continuing for another five years, it's been announced today due to delays with the new

During a conference call to discuss the company’s 1Q18 results, Greg Brown, Motorola Solutions’ CEO, said that “…we now believe the Airwave contract will be extended by five or more years,” due to “ongoing, active and productive” discussions.


He also said that “we would look to finalise the agreement either this quarter or next quarter.” Land Mobile has approached the Home Office for comment on this matter and will update this story once it has received a response.

The Home Office’s Emergency Services Mobile Communications Programme, which is working to replace the Airwave TETRA network with the Emergency Services Network (ESN) – which will use EE’s commercial mobile network in combination with a dedicated core for public safety use and additional sites that are being built under the Home Office’s Extended Area Services (EAS) project – has been hit by multiple delays since the initial contracts were signed with EE, Motorola Solutions and KBR in 2015.

At present, there is no visibility on ESMCP’s current timetable, although this expected to change this summer once a review of the programme has been completed.
Earlier this year, Motorola Solutions and Vodafone signed a contract that requires Vodafone to provide an IP-based replacement for the TDM service it is looking to withdraw in March 2020 and this will enable the Airwave network to continue operating while the TDM service is being retired.

Turning to Motorola Solutions’ 1Q18 results, it reported a 15 per cent increase in sales from 1Q17, of which roughly $49 million was related to acquisitions.The company’s GAAP operating margin fell by 1.9 percentage points to 11.6 per cent, reflecting “higher transaction costs related to acquisitions and a $52 million collection of a legal judgement in the prior year, offset by higher sales volume and higher gross margin.”

Operating cashflow was -$500 million, compared with the $142 million generated in 1Q17, due to “a $500 million debt-funded U.S. pension contribution, higher cash tax payments, higher incentive payments and a $52 million collection of a legal judgement in the prior year offset by lower capital expenditures associated with the company's ERP implementation in the prior year.”

Motorola Solutions is currently expecting revenue for 2018 as a whole to grow by approximately 14 per cent year-on-year.
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Re: Airwave - extended

Postby m0lsx » Thu May 10, 2018 9:45 pm

At the end of last year, I did hear that the home office had signed a contract with Samsung for some new mobile phones, as part of the new EE contract. These if I remember correctly come complete with a PTT!! And a price tag of around £1000 each. So it would appear strange if the old Airwave contract is extended by 5 years. Especially given the cost of Airwave is so high & it functionality is so poor.
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Re: Airwave - extended

Postby G4RMT » Thu May 10, 2018 10:44 pm

It seems that the new system simply doesn't work yet - and while the EE coverage is OK-ish, it doesn't work in rebar strengthened concrete areas, in basements - which is usually where the cells are, so this isn't an issue to airwave, as they use the Police stations as radio sites - but EE don't, yet. They're having to have base stations fitted at the Police stations - apparently they've not actually tried any of the handsets yet, and Motorola are going to get a 5 year extension while the new system is developed properly. I think the comms people finally got through to the powers that be that the start date was impossible, and totally unworkable. I heard Motorola had already earmarked the airwave system for another use, so it's not beyond possibility that they'll be able to charge through the roof for a continuation, that the Home Office will have to pay.
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Re: Airwave - extended

Postby Minus1 » Fri May 11, 2018 7:06 am

The phrase "couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery" springs to mind :rolleyes:
I reserve the right to ignore people who have made no attempt to the read the manual, and expect others to do it for them.
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Re: Airwave - extended

Postby m0lsx » Fri May 11, 2018 8:40 am

So having gone through a lengthy tendering process, which everyone but EE dropped out of. And then over 3 years of set up time & now they are 5 years behind schedule :shocker: :shocker: It's good to see the Emergency Services being offered the latest & best technology available, via the most reliable & competent suppliers available.
And of course with 3 years of development time, plus 5 years of over run time. It will be close to 10 years out of date when it finally gets given to the Emergency Services.
Airwave was a disaster in many ways & failed to meet the recommendation laid down following the 1987 Kings Cross Rail disaster. But this new system will be even worse. In 2007 the 7/7 bombings highlighted the fact that the radio systems used by the Emergency Services still NEEDED to work under ground, but did not.
In 1988 Sir Desmond Fennell QC, who conducted the Kings cross review said. "It seems extraordinary" that "the Americans can communicate with a man on the moon", yet people in the UK cannot establish a radio network to "get a system going 20 yards beneath the surface".
I wonder what he would say today. Two radio systems later & still the Emergency Services cannot. Yet anyone remember the old Rabbit telephone system from the early 80's? That was a system designed to work in such places due to a system of repeaters. Back in the early 80's the technology we lack today, existed.
As I said so good to see our Emergency Services being offered the best.
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Re: Airwave - extended

Postby Metradio » Fri May 11, 2018 11:00 am

G4RMT wrote:It seems that the new system simply doesn't work yet - and while the EE coverage is OK-ish, it doesn't work in rebar strengthened concrete areas, in basements - which is usually where the cells are, so this isn't an issue to airwave, as they use the Police stations as radio sites - but EE don't, yet. They're having to have base stations fitted at the Police stations - apparently they've not actually tried any of the handsets yet, and Motorola are going to get a 5 year extension while the new system is developed properly. I think the comms people finally got through to the powers that be that the start date was impossible, and totally unworkable. I heard Motorola had already earmarked the airwave system for another use, so it's not beyond possibility that they'll be able to charge through the roof for a continuation, that the Home Office will have to pay.


You still have Police Stations ? Round here we have a PCSO sitting at a desk in the local library - for 2 hours a day, Mon to Fri :sad:

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Re: Airwave - extended

Postby m0lsx » Fri May 11, 2018 11:37 am

Metradio wrote: You still have Police Stations ? Round here we have a PCSO sitting at a desk in the local library - for 2 hours a day, Mon to Fri :sad:

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No round here, we have a Police HQ that was designed by a half wit who decided to make it a Faraday Cage.
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Re: Airwave - extended

Postby G4RMT » Fri May 11, 2018 1:45 pm

We have a big one, with huge car park, and the staff park on the pavement too - however, very few seem to be Police officers, as they can rarely respond to more than critical incidents. Not actually sure what they do in it, but when you ring the front desk bell in our fairly large town, it gets answered by somebody 15 miles away in a smaller police station. The modern court building next door is empty - not a single person working there, and we ship our criminals over the border into Norfolk, or take them 40 miles to Ipswich. Good system.
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Re: Airwave - extended

Postby USAFE501 » Sat May 12, 2018 1:52 am

Hi Guys,
Agree with the comments made regarding technology being out of date when they eventually start using the new system.
If anyone from the Police Community happens to read this forum , I have available a selection of tin cans , in pairs , joined together with string.....
...now I admit the string is not "Digital" but having a look around the radio dealers I don't think any of the current DMR enabled scanner/receivers are capable of picking up any transmissions from the " Can and String" equipment.
Just an idea ..... :laughs: :laughs: :laughs:

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