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Yarmouth Airshow - special NOTAMs

Postby G4RMT » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:25 am

Usually airshows just get listed in the NOTAMs as potential hazards - like extreme amounts of low flying military activity, or extra tanker operations, with the pilots being made aware of the existence of the airshow, but Yarmouth seem to have a special version.
RESTRICTED AREA (TEMPORARY) AT GREAT YARMOUTH. RESTRICTION OF
FLYING REGULATIONS MADE UNDER ARTICLE 239 OF THE AIR NAVIGATION ORDER
2016. AIC M029/2018 WILL REFER. NO ACFT IS TO FLY WI AREA BOUNDED BY
CIRCLE OF RADIUS 3NM CENTRED AT 523556N 0014441E (GREAT YARMOUTH,
NORFOLK) EXCEPT ACFT FLYING WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE HAVEN GREAT
YARMOUTH AIR SHOW FLYING DISPLAY DIRECTOR WHO MAY BE CONTACTED ON
TELEPHONE 07878 5893941. THESE RESTRICTIONS ALSO APPLY TO THE
OPERATION OF ALL SMALL UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS, ANY KITE, ANY SMALL
UNMANNED AIRCRAFT AND ANY PARACHUTE INCLUDING A PARASCENDING
PARACHUTE. ADDITIONAL RESTRICTED AREA (TEMPORARY) OF A HIGHER
ALTITUDE MAY BE NOTIFIED BY SEPARATE NOTAM FOR DISPLAYS BY JET
FORMATION DISPLAY TEAMS DURING THESE TIMES. 2018-06-0054/AS6


For pilots, just common sense, but for the idiots who might be considering taking their drone along things get tricky. Usually the distance from people and 'things' is 50m for legal drone flying - easily managed over the sea, but aircraft over the sea can also come down below their legal normal limit of 500ft - so kites, drones and other things like maybe parascending services get an effective ban. It's also of interest because it provides a mechanism for prosecution where ignorance of the law was fairly lenient. Buy a drone from any cheap online outlet, and nobody mentioned the rules. Interesting they've made this airshow a special case - but I guess pleasure flights along the coast could be pretty hectic.

If you like the Red arrows = here's their schedule for today.

FORMATION TRANSIT BY RED ARROWS ACFT ROUTING:
SCAMPTON 531828N 0003303W 1045
E OF LINCOLN 531420N 0002352W 1047
N OF HORNCASTLE 531710N 0001102W 1048
NE OF MARKET RASEN 532537N 0001523W 1050
GAINSBOROUGH GOLF CLUB 532447N 0004557W 1053
N OF BECKINGHAM 532439N 0005004W 1053
W OF BARDNEY 531154N 0002207W 1057
SLEAFORD SCOOTER 530049N 0002325W 1059
S OF OSBOURNBY 525521N 0002432W 1100
NW OF BOURNE 524841N 0002527W 1101
RUTLAND WATER 523942N 0003750W 1103
UPPINGHAM 523532N 0004334W 1104
SE OF MELTON NOWBRAY 524308N 0005032W 1105
NW OF SPALDING 524943N 0001516W 1109
TILNEY ALL SAINTS 524354N 0001922E 1113
N OF TITTLESHALL 524551N 0004749E 1115
NORWICH 524033N 0011658E 1119
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Re: Yarmouth Airshow - special NOTAMs

Postby ekcomania » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:27 am

Does anyone have airband frequency information for the show please? Have programmed CAA events frequencies into my scanner but nothing heard yet.
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Re: Yarmouth Airshow - special NOTAMs

Postby G4RMT » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:33 am

There's all sorts of safety boat traffic going on offshore - ch 16 reveals they've lost contact with lots of them already!
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Re: Yarmouth Airshow - special NOTAMs

Postby deadite66 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:07 pm

lots of chatter on ch73 too.

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Re: Yarmouth Airshow - special NOTAMs

Postby G4RMT » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:03 pm

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Re: Yarmouth Airshow - special NOTAMs

Postby ekcomania » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:11 pm

Just found it 134.550.
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Re: Yarmouth Airshow - special NOTAMs

Postby G4RMT » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:16 pm

I'm working at home today so while the airshow is on, I've been having a listen and discovered something new to me. Two receivers, same frequency - one connected to the highest antenna here, about 8m south of the airshow at Gt Yarmouth. This antenna is a Diamond dual band white stick, often recommended for airband, despite the drop off in performance. Antenna B is a discone (an old Jaybeam one) at about 3m above ground, mounted above my garage flat roof. The other is on a chimney, about 5.5m above ground. Both receivers set to threshold on the squelch. Results were interesting. The discone hears things the white stick doesn't - but also vice versa. I swapped the antennas around to rule out receiver differences and without any doubt it is very strange to hear the same message from one, the other or both receivers. Neither antenna lets me hear the ground station at Yarmouth, but it is very strange hearing a virtually noise free signal on the white stick, and nothing breaking squelch on the other, immediately followed by silence on the white stick and an aircraft on the discone?

I thought about maybe aerobatics, antenna orientation on the aircraft, lobes and other oddities on the two antennas - just can't make sense at the moment.
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Re: Yarmouth Airshow - special NOTAMs

Postby m0lsx » Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:08 pm

G4RMT wrote: I thought about maybe aerobatics, antenna orientation on the aircraft, lobes and other oddities on the two antennas - just can't make sense at the moment.


Multi path due to signals being reflected & also obstructions effecting what each anennas hear? A few feet can make a fair difference on VHF.
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Re: Yarmouth Airshow - special NOTAMs

Postby G4RMT » Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:53 pm

Very strange! On balance - the discone performed better on the FT60 then the Whistler TX did on the white stick! The FT60 would open the squelch on a weaker signal, and close again at the end. The Whistler TX-2 would open on weak signals, if the squelch was finely adjusted, but then wouldn't close at the end.
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Re: Yarmouth Airshow - special NOTAMs

Postby m0lsx » Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:09 pm

Interesting.
I find my long telescopic sitting in a corner on top of a handhld scanner is not far behind my outdoor & higher three band white stick. I loose weak signals into the noise, but that is all.
The Arrows must have used the airport today, as we had them do thier usual display over the Airport. (Hellesdon / Old Catton.) This afternoon.
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