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digital programming - Kenwood TK3401D

PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:42 pm
by tegsy1
Hi All, when programming a digital radio ie TK 3401d, are there codes that need to be entered as well as the frequency? I only ask as I purchased the software for this radio, all that it allows me to do is enter the frequencies but no codes,is this correct please. Thanks.

Re: digital programming - Kenwood TK3401D

PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:00 pm
by G4RMT
FM operation requires frequencies and if you want the CTCSS/DCS frequencies, and the digital settings do require some basic information. If you want to post the screen shot of what you see n the software, we can tell you if something is missing?

Re: digital programming - Kenwood TK3401D

PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:05 pm
by moj
It's a dpmr radio so in theory will be no different to the icom dpmr licence free radio which also doesn't allow you to put a colour code into the radio when programming it , they seem to have set settings on the cps !

Re: digital programming - Kenwood TK3401D

PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:52 am
by tegsy1
Thanks for the replies, it seems that the codes are pre programmed into the radio so no worries. :thumbup:

Re: digital programming - Kenwood TK3401D

PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:24 pm
by Davie Boy
moj wrote:It's a dpmr radio so in theory will be no different to the icom dpmr licence free radio which also doesn't allow you to put a colour code into the radio when programming it , they seem to have set settings on the cps !

That is a very odd way for them to do things.... are the colour codes etc. the same on every model that is bought....? If so I can see many problems and if not there are also problems.... if the fixed codes are the same on all models then this means there will be more interference from other users which could have been avoided.... if they are different then this will surely cause compatibility issues with other models and especially when buying an extra pair....?

Re: digital programming - Kenwood TK3401D

PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:20 pm
by G4RMT
As designed for the licence free band, the usual digital features have been pruned because for short range use on the legal bands, there's not really much point in cleverness. To be honest, I'm surprised they even made them programmable. If you want the clever features, you'd buy licensable version wouldn't you?

Re: digital programming - Kenwood TK3401D

PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:02 pm
by Davie Boy
The only thing that should be set is surely the frequencies....? I mean.... they are set frequencies anyway so why or how should you be able to change them....?

On the other hand CTCSS and colour codes are there for the very one reason of blocking out other users.... so to fix these and not allow them to be selectable seems a ludicrous idea to me and against the very reason those codes were invented in the first place....? Even on cheap argos sets you can select the ctcss and also it is a great marketing tool as you can boast x amount of channel combinations as opposed to 8 on a standard no toned pmr....

Re: digital programming - Kenwood TK3401D

PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:45 pm
by G4RMT
People usually buy a few radios and talk to each other, and the standard programming seems to allow this. If you want to have more facilities, you'd probably also not want to be in a public band - any amount of tones and groups, zones and access codes doesn't stop the interference wrecking your channel does it?