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Car Crime UK blatently faking it.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:53 pm
by m0lsx
I was just watching Car Crime UK on a satellite TV channel & they showed a CCTV operator finding several crimes on his monitors & then reporting them to the Police on his cheap licence free 446 radio!!!
The give away was the size of the radio & the moulded short oblong antenna that was part of the radio case.
So clearly genuine CCTV footage, but shown in a totally dishonest manner as there is no way that CCTV operators would report crimes over a open to the public radio system.

Re: Car Crime UK blatently faking it.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:42 pm
by thelad
Yep just made up on the cheap for tv.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:00 am
by G4RMT
TV programmes are for entertainment, so it's not dishonesty, it's just TV production. If you think this is dishonest, then you'd hate working with TV people. Telling the story is the ONLY purpose, and when things won't work from the story telling perspective, you do what they do in the movies, make it look good, even if this makes it factually incorrect, which nobody apart from experts even notice or care about. I've been involved with live TV programmes, some that even had the word 'Live' in the title, and we prerecorded. TV gameshows are the most common 'cheats'. CCTV control rooms are frequently many miles away from the Police control room, so they don't use radios, but where they are closer, and a radio to radio link is possible, then they will use easily listenable radios and pass public safety messages. Somebody is breaking the window of Boots is hardly secret or private. The name and address of a person would be different - but CCTV operators don't have this kind of information.
The chances are that the radio was sitting there, so the director suggested they use this as a simulation because it looks better than picking up the telephone! Image is everything.

Re: Car Crime UK blatently faking it.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:55 am
by m0lsx
G4RMT wrote: TV gameshows are the most common 'cheats'.


One TV game show trick is to record the one to one, presenter guest introduction section last, as it needs non TV people to be as natural as possible & doing it after people have had time to get use to the TV studio is an easy way to achieve that. However this can mean, with some game shows, that it is possible to easily pick up which team/ person will potentially win or loose from their mood during that important one to one introduction period of the televised show.

Re: Car Crime UK blatently faking it.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:22 am
by 26CT2369
m0lsx, If i wanted to watch it online what do i search for? whats the name of tv show/program? :thumbup:

Re: Car Crime UK blatently faking it.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:18 pm
by m0lsx
It was Car Crime UK & was on one of the Channel 5 satellite channels.

Re: Car Crime UK blatently faking it.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:07 pm
by G4RMT
Years ago when I worked on Lucky Ladders at Anglia, we did one episode and got a rule wrong, so we had to go right back to the mistake, and the poor contestant who lost had to give every wrong answer again. Quite a few gameshows now do 5 a day, for 5 days, and record 'as live' - not stopping for small mistakes, like the host saying "what have you got Gary?" and getting the answer "graham". Then on Saturday without an audience, the floor manager says - blue suit, red tie, white shirt, and he goes and gets changes - we go into record and the he says "what have you got Graham" - and they edit it in. Then it's black suit, blue shirt and on and on till the mistakes have all been covered. It's also common for interviews to be fiddled because time with the talent is short, so you shoot the interview with one camera (double crewing rarely happens now) and only shoot the interviewee. After you've said thanks and they have gone, you shoot the reverse angle and the interviewer speaks to the empty chair. Often the question can be tweaked slightly to cope with an off topic tangential reply. Obviously you could really abuse this, but if the interview is edited to the benefit of the guest, they don't mind.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:37 pm
by Mark5R
What always makes me laugh is how on coronation street the coppers turn up with tetra radios that are switched off but somehow they are old analogue crackly squelchy radios according to the sound effects :laughs:

Re: Car Crime UK blatently faking it.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:14 pm
by m0lsx
Mark5R wrote:What always makes me laugh is how on coronation street the coppers turn up with tetra radios that are switched off but somehow they are old analogue crackly squelchy radios according to the sound effects :laughs:


Ever watched The Sweeney? They used Pye PF1's which came as separate units for transmit & receive, but the Sweeney used a single PF1 unit as a transceiver.

Re: Car Crime UK blatently faking it.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:56 pm
by G4RMT
Ah, but they are magic radios. you don't need to push the button on the side and you can interrupt the other person, and they work everywhere