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Heathrow Approach: Hastings to Biggin Hill (frequency?)

Postby RobBain » Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:46 pm

Hi

Quick questions for AB enthusiasts/pilots:

1. A number of LHR inbounds cross the Channel close to Hastings and travel north west direct towards Biggin Hill. I know this as they go over my house in NW Kent (about FL100). Are there aviation charts which show or describe this route? Anything on-line? Anyone know anything about this (clearly popular) routeing?

2. Above my house (nr Sevenoaks) they switch over to Heathrow Director on 119.725MHz. Any idea what frequency they might have been using before the switch?

Many thanks,

Rob
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Re: Heathrow Approach: Hastings to Biggin Hill (frequency?)

Postby nigel 007 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:10 pm

Rob, type in London control centre on google, theres a map on there with all the countrys frequencies.
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Re: Heathrow Approach: Hastings to Biggin Hill (frequency?)

Postby RobBain » Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:31 pm

Many thanks Nigel. My Google comes up with a list of frequencies, for sure. But I can't find a map that attributes specific frequencies to specific regions/sectors. Can you send me the map you found (info@robbain.com)?

Cheers,

Rob
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Re: Heathrow Approach: Hastings to Biggin Hill (frequency?)

Postby Minus1 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:24 pm

It's horrendously complicated.

The frequency may change by time of day (whether most traffic is inbound or outbound)

Flight level affects which frequency is used.

Frequencies may be 'bandboxed' with another.

There are standby freqs only used at peak times

Below is a list of London freqs from which I've eliminated those freqs which are unlikely to be used.
Good luck.

120.02500 EGTT London ATC, Portsmouth CTA Hi ^3?
120.17500 EGTT London ATC SE Inbound [SE Timba]
120.47500 EGTT London LTMA South standby
120.52500 EGTT London LTMA Outbound SE via DET
127.82500 EGTT London Portsmouth 22 CTA Upper
127.95000 EGTT London ATC (South)
128.15833 EGTT London ATC (East 13) ^Swingfield?
128.42500 EGTT London ATC (Dover 17) ^Swingfield?
128.47500 EGTT London ATC, Southern CTA
129.07500 EGTT London ATC (S)
129.42500 EGTT London ATC [Worthing 20/21]
130.92500 EGTT London ??
132.16666 EGTT London ATC [25] ^Greenford^
132.60000 EGTT London ATC [26] SE Upr ^Greenford^
132.84166 EGTT London S Upr [1]
133.07500 EGTT London ATC Southern CTA
133.17500 EGTT London Portsmouth CTA [SW Willo]
133.52500 EGTT London ATC (spare)
133.94166 EGTT London ATC (Sector 12 'DAGGA')
134.12500 EGTT London, 'Ockham' Portsmouth CTA
134.25000 EGTT London Upper
134.46660 EGTT London ATC - SE Upper [24]
134.90000 EGTT London ATC SE [Dover Lo 15]
135.05000 EGTT London ATC Worthing [18,19]
135.32500 EGTT London ATC (South) 16,18? MOVED?
135.80000 EGTT London ATC [Compton]
136.27500 EGTT London standby?
136.55000 EGTT London standby?
136.60000 EGTT London SE Upper 16 (over France)
I reserve the right to ignore people who have made no attempt to the read the manual, and expect others to do it for them.
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Re: Heathrow Approach: Hastings to Biggin Hill (frequency?)

Postby nigel 007 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:20 pm

Rob, ive found the link for you, if you go to the airband air frequencies page on this site, go to the swanwick atc frequency post, go to the fifth post down , by pnoelw, and click on the google link , the map is there for you ,.
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Re: Heathrow Approach: Hastings to Biggin Hill (frequency?)

Postby RobBain » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:10 pm

Ah ha! I like a challenge.

I'll set these up in my SDR# scanner plug-in and check when there are 3 or 4 coming across from France at the same time. That will increase my chances of hearing one of the call signs, and I can note the associated frequency.

Point taken about use of different frequencies. Let's see how I get on.

Many thanks -1.

Regards,

Rob

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Re: Heathrow Approach: Hastings to Biggin Hill (frequency?)

Postby RobBain » Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:49 pm

Many thanks, Nigel. I looked at your map last night. Identified Sector 17 as the area ('entry point' to the UK) that interested me, and tuned-into the suggested fq (128.425MHz). And there they were, heading across the Channel before reaching Kent (inbound to LHR). Exactly what I was after! But I thought I'd try this a few times before replying.

Well, I tried again just now and exactly the same. I get them switching across to 128.425 around Amiens (200+ km away) and can track them from there to my home location in NW Kent (when I establish visual).

Might be just luck - but many thanks nevertheless.

Regards,

Rob

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Re: Heathrow Approach: Hastings to Biggin Hill (frequency?)

Postby Forum Helper » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:16 pm

London Control Frequencies

118.400 London Area Control Sector 14 - Clacton West
118.480 London Area Control Sector 14 - Clacton West (S14)
118.825 London Terminal Control North East Departures (NE DEPS)
119.775 London Terminal Control North West Departures (NW DEPS)
120.025 London Control Standby
120.175 London Terminal Control Timba Sector (TIMBA)
120.475 London Terminal Control South Standby
120.525 London Terminal Control Biggin Sector (BIG)
121.025 London Terminal Control Cowly West Sector (COWLY W)
121.225 London Terminal Control Redfa Sector (REDFA)
121.275 London Terminal Control Bovingdon Sector (BNN)
121.500 Distress & Diversion International Distress
123.225 London Control Standby
123.900 London Terminal Control Lambourne Sector (LAM)
124.600 London Area Control Flight Information Service East Sector
124.750 London Area Control Flight Information Service West Sector
124.930 London Terminal Control Dagga Sector (DAGGA)
125.475 London Area Control Flight Information Service North Sector
126.075 London Area Control Sector 06 - Berry Head (S06)
126.075 London Area Control Sector 06 - Berry Head (S06)
126.780 London Area Control Sector 11- North Sea (S11)
126.875 London Area Control North Group Standby
127.105 London Area Control Sector 28 - Daventry North (S28)
127.430 London Area Control Sector 02 - London Upper Sector East (S02)
127.700 London Area Control West Group Standby
127.825 London Area Control Sector 22 - Hurn (S22)
127.880 London Area Control Sector 34 - Daventry North (S34)
127.955 London Terminal Control Vaton Sector (VATON)
128.125 London Area Control Sector 10 - North Sea (S10)
128.160 London Area Control Sector 13 - Clacton West (S13)
128.425 London Area Control Sector 17 - Lydd (S17)
128.480 London Terminal Control Welin East Sector (WELIN E)
128.815 London Area Control Sector 36 - Exmor (S36)
129.025 TC Gatwick (EGKK) Standby
129.050 London Control Standby
129.080 London Terminal Control Ockham Sector (OCK)
129.205 London Area Control Sector 27 - Daventry South (S27)
129.280 London Terminal Control Lorel Sector (LOREL)
129.375 London Area Control Sector 08 - Strumble (S08)
129.425 London Area Control Sector 20 (S20) / Sector 21 (S21) - Hurn
129.605 London Terminal Control Saber Sector (SABER)
130.925 London Terminal Control Welin West Sector (WELIN W)
131.050 Western Radar Standby
131.125 London Area Control Sector 27 - Daventry South (S27)
131.130 London Terminal Control North West Arrivals (NW ARR)
132.125 London Area Control Sector 03 - Lakes (S03)
132.165 London Area Control Sector 25 - London Middle Sector West (S25)
132.300 London Area Control Sector 21 - Hurn Low (S21)
132.300 Western Radar Western Radar
132.450 London Area Control Sector 25 - London Middle Sector West (S25)
132.605 London Area Control Sector 26 - London Middle Sector East (S26)
132.840 London Area Control Sector 01 - London Upper Sector West (S01)
132.860 London Area Control Sector 04 - Lakes (S04)
132.950 London Area Control Sector 09 - Lands End (S09)
133.080 London Terminal Control Cowly East Sector (COWLY E)
133.175 London Terminal Control Willo Sector (WILLO)
133.225 London Area Control Sector 08 - Strumble (S08)
133.450 London Area Control Sector 12 - Clacton East
133.450 London Terminal Control South East Low Sector (SE LOW)
133.525 London Area Control East Group Standby
133.600 London Area Control Sector 05 - Brecon (S05)
133.705 London Area Control Sector 03 - Lakes (S03)
133.940 London Area Control Sector 12 - Clacton East (S12)
133.975 London Terminal Control East, North, Midland & Capital Standby
134.125 London Terminal Control South West Departures (SW DEPS)
134.250 London Control Standby
134.390 London Area Control Sector 32 - Daventry South (S32)
134.450 London Area Control Sector 16 - Dover Low (S16)
134.460 London Area Control Sector 24 - London Upper Sector North (S24)
134.750 London Area Control Sector 23 - Bristol (S23)
134.900 London Area Control Sector 15 - Dover Low (S15)
135.050 London Area Control Sector 19 - Hurn (S19)
135.250 London Area Control Berry Head Standby
135.255 London Area Control Sector 35 - Pembroke (S35)
135.325 London Area Control South East
135.425 London Area Control Sector 32 - Daventry South (S32)
135.425 London Terminal Control Logan Sector (LOGAN)
135.540 London Area Control Sector 06 - Berry Head
135.580 London Area Control Sector 07 - Lakes (S07)
135.800 London Terminal Control Compton Sector (CPT)
136.200 TC Stansted (EGSS) Final Director (SS FIN)
136.275 London Control Standby
136.550 London Control Standby
136.600 London Area Control Sector 16 - Dover High (S16)
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