St John Ambulance - complete list

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St John Ambulance - complete list

Postby bigboyblue » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:47 pm

Does anyone have a comprehensive list for the current Johhnies frequencies please.

I see there are a few threads, one in which a youtube video is linked to (and much discussion about its contents), but its gone, and the users account has too.

therefore its a bit of a guess as to the layout and use of the freqs.

I get that NSJ 1-6 is the MOD freq, with different tones on.

I looked at that set of freqs and tones at Brighton pride last weekend, and got nothing at all.

I know they have some repeaters, but there seems to be a lack of repeater info out there as to what is in Sussex for instance. someone mentioned they use channel 5, but no freq to cross reference if its 5 ending (IE 25,35,45,55,65 etc)

Is there an actual list anywhere ?
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Re: St John Ambulance - complete list

Postby Minus1 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:19 am

I think they have moved to Icom IDAS (a form of NXDN).
My BCD536HP (with the NXDN upgrade) detects a brief "NX4" transmission on 166.2875 every 30 seconds with RAN=20, and a similar but more distant signal on 166.75 (cannot resolve RAN), but I have not yet been able to get any audio or other info from either, nor any other SJA freq.

Below is the analog channel plan as it used to be. The 'channels' on each freq were actually different CTCSS tones.
The assigned freqs are likely to stil be used, though channel numbers have probably gone out the window.
Not heard the 153 freq for months.

153.7125 <NFM> NSJ1–6 Red Cross (also used by St John Ambulance)

163.0875 NSJ31-37 St John Ambulance {England,Wales,NI}
163.3 NSJ41–47 St John Ambulance {England,Wales,NI}
163.5125 NSJ21–27 St John Ambulance {England,Wales,NI}
166.2875 <NX4> NSJ St John Ambulance {England,Wales,NI} (rcvd strong Birmingham)
166.6125 NSJ51–57 St John Ambulance {England,Wales,NI}
166.75 <NX4> NSJ61–67 St John Ambulance {England,Wales,NI} (rcvd weak Birmingham)

453.3625 USJ:10–16 St John Ambulance {England, Wales, NI}

Don't know about the Simple UK freqs (again all the channel numbers / CTCSS may no longer be relevant):
164.05 NFM SJA:5 St John Ambulance ~186.2
164.0625 NFM SJA:3 St John Ambulance ~186.2
169.0875 NFM SJA:7 St John Ambulance ~186.2
169.3125 NFM SJA:2 St John Ambulance ~186.2
173.05 NFM SJA:1 St John Ambulance ~186.2
173.0625 NFM SJA:4 St John Ambulance ~186.2
173.0875 NFM SJA:6 St John Ambulance ~186.2
449.3125 NFM USJ:#
449.4 NFM USJ:#
449.475 NFM USJ:#
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Re: St John Ambulance - complete list

Postby Davie Boy » Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:12 pm

Nice list Minus1... :thumbup:

I used to hear 153.7125 a lot in the past but not for a long time... is this still used...?

Got them recently at an event in notts and they were using 169.0875 and 169.3125... they were using another frequency but I didn't get that... as 169.0875 and 169.3125 are simplex I think the other was duplex as they had an antenna on their mobile coms caravan...
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Re: St John Ambulance - complete list

Postby bigboyblue » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:11 pm

I’m now thoroughly confused as I’ve just seen on a vehicle outfitters website some images of a St. John wales ambulance, decked out with a dm4600 radio, looks like a vhf antenna, but definitely not a icom unit - and knowing nxdn and mototrbo aren’t compatible with each other, am now confused !

Time to hunt instagram pics of St. John jobs over the past few months to see what the English St. John are doing, maybe Wales has its own direction it’s going, but you would have to wonder why.
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Re: St John Ambulance - complete list

Postby thelad » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:28 pm

I have picked up DMR near the base at Osset, can't remember any other details.

From what i can see online its a mix of Icom, Mototrbo and Tetra.
Could depend on the area they are working?
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Re: St John Ambulance - complete list

Postby bigboyblue » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:09 pm

Instagram shows a mix of non display and display Icoms in use, and I've only looked at pics in the past 3 months, so safe to say its idas / nxdn if its digital.

I will program a couple of their repeaters into the handheld and see if its decodable / what their new settings are. (RAN numbers, group codes etc)

Must just be wales using mototrbo sets for some reason, probably on analogue. Or a specific vehicle used at only one site, and that's got their radio in it.
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Re: St John Ambulance - complete list

Postby m0lsx » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:35 pm

The problem is SJA is not a simple organisation using set equipment across all tiers.
They do contract work & will probably have some airwave radios for some of that, as some of it is for the local Ambulance trust etc. Whilst at a volunteer (event) level they have regional & then local tiers, so some equipment is not standard across all levels of use.
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